Cedarpines Park

Questions are good. However, since all of the questions you have asked have been the subject of much discussion and are being addressed, it appears that you have a complete list that could have been lifted from minutes of meetings with the answers expunged.

That is not to say all issues have been fully resolved. To replay the past years discussions here is not practical. Since you are not up to date and cannot attend the meeting, perhaps you can make a future meeting and ask them in person?

Your questions involving personnel issues which require confidentiality cannot be addressed as fully as you would like. But it is clear your interest in company operations is keen. The rest have been ongoing issues since I joined the board last year. I was fully briefed on these matters, some of which I was already aware of, and have been involved all year in trying to deal with each one. The public comment portion of every public meeting has been taken up with aspects of them all year. The fact that you have such a comprehensive list of the issues we are dealing with, but none of the answers is baffling.

I am glad to see someone else also knows of the double dipping by our field manager. He has and continues to run two other buisiness (Dock Building and Construction)while getting paid on water district time. The Cedar Glen water district had a Darel Surcharge on there bill when it went bankrupt from the conservator, on top of this the overtime for his employees to fix leaks not once but twice due to incompetence (confirmed by LACSD employees hired off duty to do the work correctly). Some things never change during my 48 years of mountain living. His son in law handles the tires and mechanic work for the district, the house he is building for another water district employee in his wifes name, and trying to get us the water rate payers to pay for the road, what next? Just tired of the 30 years of corrupt Water politics on the mountain (my brother was a LACSD board member years ago).

The reason I have no answers from the meetings or minutes is because none have been given. Just look at your agenda for the upcoming meeting. Items have been placed on the agenda for over a year but never resolved. They are just placed on the next agenda. Questions are asked but the board does not respond or do anything about them.

Thank you oldschoolfamily. I am happy to see that someone else is reading this and also has questions. Do you have any suggestions about how to get shareholders interested enough to take a closer look at the things that are going on? When I see all the folks that just blindly sign their proxy over to the current board it makes me ill. There are other people that apply for the positions but are not considered. Since the board has control they appoint the people they want. The positions may change but the people do not. Doesn’t anyone else out there see what is going on? Do you just not care how much you pay to the water company or how the money is used?

Another question…what happened to the bedrock under the Sawpit tank? Did the rain wash it away? Are you going to make ALL the engineer reports available to the shareholders? You have an estimate of 500k. Now, during fire season you are going to reduce the capacity by 50%! It has been holding up just fine. Do Not endanger our homes at this time of year!

With all these things and more I do believe having a reliable water company take over this one would be the answer at this point in time. Perhaps that could be avoided if the current board would simply answer or I think a better word would be RESOLVE the things that are so very troubling to some of the shareholders.

I do have more questions that are UNRESOLVED.

Panga1949 had some good ideas. Did anyone notice that Roncpp did not respond to any of them? The GPS idea is great!

The reason I have no answers from the meetings or minutes is because none have been given. And you made this determination how? You have admitted not attending most meetings and have formed this opinion based on your interpretation of the minutes. Of the many items on the past agendae, some are complex and require time and information to resolve. You apparently assume that nothing has been discussed, contemplated or accomplished.

Just look at your agenda for the upcoming meeting. Items have been placed on the agenda for over a year but never resolved. They are just placed on the next agenda. Making baseless allegations and mistating the facts is not how issues are resolved.

Questions are asked but the board does not respond or do anything about them. Asked by whom? I have not seen any questions ignored during my brief tenure. Not all questions have quick, pat answers and require time to address. In no case have questions been ignored.

Thank you oldschoolfamily. I am happy to see that someone else is reading this and also has questions. Do you have any suggestions about how to get shareholders interested enough to take a closer look at the things that are going on? When I see all the folks that just blindly sign their proxy over to the current board it makes me ill. Who does this? The board has not had a quorum based on assigned proxies in decades making this statement completely specious.

There are other people that apply for the positions but are not considered. Since the board has control they appoint the people they want. The positions may change but the people do not. Another misstatement. How do you know that applicants have not been considered? I was chosen from among 2 or 3 applicants last year by the board which has the authority and obligation to do so in its judgmment under the Bylaws. This authority also comes from the majority of the shareholders who chose not to attend or assign their proxies to someone to speak and vote for their interests. I was a new person selected to replace a resigning board member.

Doesn’t anyone else out there see what is going on? Do you just not care how much you pay to the water company or how the money is used?

Another question…what happened to the bedrock under the Sawpit tank? Did the rain wash it away? Are you going to make ALL the engineer reports available to the shareholders? You have an estimate of 500k. Is there a conspiracy theory about that too? Any shareholder may go to the office and read a copy of the preliminary engineering report the board has just received. There are no secrets. I've read the report and can assure everyone, the bedrock is where it has always been, but not immediately under those tanks. They were built on fill dirt and subsidence has occurred as well as erosion from heavy rains. The engineers have recommended that the water levels be reduced to 50% as a precaution against failure of the tank under stress from earthquake or further earth movement for the safety of homes in the vacinity of the tanks. There was significant discussion of this subject at the last two meetings. That is why we need to address the possible solutions, the cost, and the urgency of replacing infrastructure. Instead of waste of funds, the board, representing every shareholder must determine the best course and how to pay for such projects. This is one of several priorities we face. When people complain about how money is spent who have not acquainted themselves with the facts, and then pronounce their opinions as if based on those facts, misunderstandings are spread needlessly. My suggestion has been to attend meetings, ask the questions and get the facts as we know them and provide your input toward the solutions.

Now, during fire season you are going to reduce the capacity by 50%! It has been holding up just fine. Do Not endanger our homes at this time of year! So you suggest we ignore the engineers recommendation and accept the consequences if the tank should fail and someone loses their home due to tank failure? Would that be a sound business practice in your opinion? Which outside company would you prefer make that decision for us?

With all these things and more I do believe having a reliable water company take over this one would be the answer at this point in time. Perhaps that could be avoided if the current board would simply answer or I think a better word would be RESOLVE the things that are so very troubling to some of the shareholders. The implication that our company is "unreliable" by someone who clearly is only casually acquainted with the facts is one of the many challenges the board deals with continually. Would a rational person wonder why we have to exercise some caution in selecting who might join this board?

The shareholders hold the power. If things are truly so bad that abandoning our assets to some outside entity that some assume has better judgment, more concern for our local issues and the qualifications to run this company, they can act as a group. I think the absense of such action and the very few who take the time to acquaint themselves with the details of daily operations and long term planning is evidence that the company is being operated on a sound basis and our primary mission is being fulfilled. That does not mean that there are not problems which are being addressed and are still not resolved. This does not mean there is no merit to concerns expressed at meetings and in writing to the board. The objective of this board is to deal with all issues in an open, effective and legal manner. Those who have accepted this responsibility serve at the pleasure of the shareholders and a few have probably had their fill of the accusations, slanderous comments and conspiracy theories which some make. Eagle makes assumptions based on 2nd hand interpretations, incomplete information and failure to address the questions directly to the board in an open meeting. I continue to suggest anyone with concerns come to the meetings and find out the actual status of ongoing issues and find out how far some have progressed over time. The money some complain is being poorly spent has gone to such frivoulous items as engineering reports, comliance audits, solicitation of legal advice and other expertise including consultation with other water authorities to ensure we are on the right path to resolving what is in our power to resolve.

I do have more questions that are UNRESOLVED.

Panga1949 had some good ideas. Did anyone notice that Roncpp did not respond to any of them? The GPS idea is great!

The next meeting is tonight at 7pm in the Community Center as usual.